The Kabalarians are a group in Vancouver that advocate for changing your name. They do this for money, lots of money.
They derive their teachings from a yogic system named Yantra yoga. However really they are watering down the precision (and karmic instruction to give it away for free) of Yantra for the sake of financial gain and keeping their organization alive.
Their organization has been hit by numerous scandals, the usual thing with cults and cult leaders – sex scandals involving the leaders with multiple young women raised in the group, raised in groupthink. Legal action has been taken and the leader was found guilty as charged. Further court cases are in the works.
Naturally this raises the question if the balanced names work so well why:
- did the leader(s) abuse their position, as the courts have found?
- did the followers acquiesce, as is reported by them and others?
- did the parents not do something about it, as many non-”balanced name” parents would have?
Today the Kabalarian centre has a distinctly run-down feel. Aggressive sales on the part of some old school members keeps it afloat.
A teacher of Yantra, who gives away more advanced numerology instruction, says quite clearly that the leader of the Kabalarians – Alfred “J” Parker (who did not change his name although he advocated everybody else to!?) – changed the women to a 6 total and men and women to a 6 plane of mind so often so as to control his followers.
In Yantra there are supposedly strong karmic penalties for messing with the original system. Alfred Parker did die young.
Note: At this time I will not be publishing insulting comments from Kabalarians or Kabalarian advocates. I may choose in the future to publish them as they speak for themselves.
If you wish to disagree, of course I will publish your comments as long as you remain civil.
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I’m very glad that you’re speaking out about all of this. Yes, what a freakshow all of that was/is. It’s too bad because their LAT manual has information about specific name totals that is worthy of more in-depth study.
They are a surprisingly shabby lot. Very strange. They are stuck somewhere else in time.
It’s ridiculous and suspect that Parker didn’t change his name.
We do what we can.
It’s too bad – numerology deserves deeper study. However corrupting the older tradition of Yogic Yantra name alignment that preserved greater originality for each individual is not something to do lightly. At the least everyone should have an explanation of the original system Kabalarianism is derived from so they can make a comparison. Also it is worth noting that in the original system taking money for this advice was forbidden.
Thanks for your comments!
Thank you for this article of warning. Kabalarians spam the internet with positive stories but I feel it’s important to have as many warnings posted as possible in the event some unsuspecting, curious individual that is looking for easy answers may stumble upon this group. They prey on the weak and give them a sense of community. They use simple cold-reading techniques to make people feel as though they’ve found reasons why they are unsuccessful in life. For a fee, they will be re-named (awkward and unpronounceable names) and voila! They will be healthier and wealthier?! Poor things…
Thanks for the thanks, Alison! I noticed that there were very few critical articles of that group online. Anyone who is in a difficult life situation and wants to take such a big leap as changing their name should have a fuller picture than the Kabalarians present.
About 5 years ago I came across the Kabalarian website. Their intro sounded (they had, and still do, a video intro) and read very well. I emailed and asked for more info, their response was to order a name analysis. I did because it was on sale and I wanted to see what they would tell me and be able to get into their forums, which were restricted to “members”.
The name report was ok, but nothing to shout about. Their suggestions for changes were a bit “out there”. So once I got into their forum I started asking questions and requesting information. All of their responses were rather cloaked and iffy. Since I was and still am rather familiar with numerology, their responses left me cold. The “free” e-books by Alfred Parker that I received with the report were so vague and insubstantial no wonder they were giving them away masked as a “free gift”.
The prices for additional reports were very expensive.
Now I found your site and comments feel vidicated about feeling at that time there was something not quite right with their lack of answers to even the most simple of questions.
Hi, thanks for your comments. The more people become aware of what the Kabalarians are doing, the better. The Kabalarians have a very commerce-driven operation running for a system that was traditionally given away for free. It’s important that people understand enough about numerology to make a such a big decision and not go into it lightly.
Although Alfred J. Parker is no longer with us in the flesh, I propose that we posthumously give the poor man a balanced name so that he may rest in peace. Thus, I would like to suggest that he henceforth be known as:
“Ahlfferd Peckar”. (We will dispense with the “J” altogether, since middle names and initials are superfluous.) The Kabalarians should have no objections to said proposed name, seeing as it is in perfect accordance with a balanced formula for a man’s name.(Do the math – You’ll see!) For those of you who know the “secret formula” for a balanced name – ssshh! Don’t tell! Only the bravest and most worthy of all spiritual seekers (those who courageously run up their credit card debt by ordering name reports, name recommendations,”life analysis training” lessons, etc.) shall be allowed access to those ancient vaults of esoteric wisdom which the godlike Kabalarians grant to the privileged few.
I, myself, am one of the special worthy ones who wisely parted with more than
five hundred dollars in pursuit of the rare and extraordinary knowledge that is known only to the high and holy wizards known as “THE KABALARIANS”!
You may be wondering if I regret having been suckered – oops! I mean
“having succumbed” – to the siren spell of the Kabalarians’ promises of earthly bliss which lay in store for me upon the ultimate attainment – that of having gained my BALANCED NAME! Do I regret the money I spent, or the countless hours I sacrificed while contemplating the sacred Kabalarian scriptures wherein the hidden meanings of names were revealed to ME – a mere mortal! Why, perish the thought! It was the wisest use of my time and money that I’ve ever spent, and I’m so proud of it that I’d like to publish my full name right here and now. (Well, I’d like to, that is, but I’ve forgotten how to spell it.)In closing I’d like to say that if you haven’t done so already, please contact the Kabalarians immediately so that you, too, can discover YOUR balanced name and live happily ever after! We can thank God for giving us geniuses like Ahlfferd Peckar, without whom this great knowledge would have lain dormant on the astral plane forever and ever. HAIL KABALARIANS! HAIL AHLFFERD PECKAR!
That’s pretty funny. Good satire, and you’re right, ‘Ahlfferd Peckar’ is a balanced name according to their system.
Too bad with all their advertising about balanced names they couldn’t at least have the decency to reveal the source of their material, and the fact that traditionally it was given away free. Everybody wants to make a buck off Yoga nowadays.
AAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
This can’t be happening!
I just changed my name two weeks ago!
Aw… you thought, you thought
Really, though, I almost did. It made me sick to my stomach to find out that they’re charlatans. The sirens were always there warning me, and not just metaphorically either. I spent numerous days on the phone with the Kabs just trying to get some insightful informational without having to fork over money, but success was slim to none with their doggy consultants. As luck would have it, there’d always be sirens going off in the background, as if their office was located in Compton, CA. I’d always scratch my head at the sound of these sirens, but my optimistic-self just learned to ignore such warning signs.
What lead me to the Kabs was a book entitled, “The Secret Universe of Names,” and boy did this book work a number on me. Since I had always disliked my given name, it wasn’t so hard for the author to influence me to hate my given name. Soon, I grew even more curious for wisdom on the study of names.
There I was, a desperate young lad in search of answers for the mysteries of life… and the wolves took everything they could.
The cold reads were cool. My gut said,”Hang up, Louu! Hang up this damn phone, right now! ‘You some kind of schmuck?!” And my ego would reply, “Wait dude… just a little while longer, let’s hear what else these people have to say.” So I did. And, they sure were good at their cold reads, because there I was calling a few days a week just to talk, trying to gain some wisdom. I could always sense they were getting annoyed with all my questions, so I finally ordered a name report and a balanced name recommendation report. This lead me to even more questions – considering that 80% of the name report could be found just by using their name calculator found on their website – they would never really answer.
One day I called one of their consultants out on it. Actually, I complimented them. “Wow, that’s amazing!” I said, “You know, you’d do wonders in sales. Where’d you learn to dodge questions like that?? It was so effortless.”
“I used to work in sales” they replied.
I thought we had become friends after all the time we had spent talking to each other over the phone. But all I was to them was a client.
I still feel sick to my stomach after having gone so close to changing my name to something they recommended. It’s a weird feeling too hard to describe. Disgusted isn’t the word, but it’s the first one to come to mind.
Their pictures all look so evil, and the layout of their website seems a bit commercial.
And… their address… it’s an 8!
I’ve studied numerology and came across the Kabalarians. I found their name descriptions to be very accurate. I think their disregard for Chaldean numerology is a weakness. A name may bring a successful destiny but if the name has a bad Chaldean meaning it can be bad. Wilhelm Reich is an example of this.
A correction for you: Alfred J Parker is balanced.
Hi, thanks for the comment.
Their name descriptions are their main strength, at least in theory. They have however significantly changed their descriptions in the last 12 years in the online presentation of the name analysis.
The Chaldean numerology is unlikely to be integrated. For one thing, combining both Chaldean and Yantric (the basis for Kabalarianism) is too complex to easily create a balanced name in both system. For another, they feel Chaldean simply has no impact.
Wilhelm Reich is a good example, you’re right!
However, you are wrong about Alfred J Parker. By adding the “J” all he was doing was creating what they perceive to a be a balanced total. The first name on its own is not balanced even according to their own system. The last name is, but only as a first name.
Additionally, the “J” was an affectation. In transcripts of the case where they the Kabalarian organization was sued for the abuse the young women experienced at the hands of their leader, Ivon Shearing (what a name! Like shearing the sheep), the legal reference was to “Alfred Parker” only. Courts did not include the “J” – this would not happen if it were a legal change of name
So Alfred “J” Parker is not a balanced name even according to their system, only has a balanced total with the “J”, and the “J” was seemingly not even a legal change.
It looks to me very much like Mr. A.J. Parker was scamming his followers. How many people promote such a system and don’t even follow it themselves? And then have their organization degenerate into typical sexual abuse events which courts found the leader to be guilty of? This is the case even with their supposedly balanced names.
Even in A.J. Parker’s day sex scandals were the norm for the Kabs, just not with young girls. That twist was for later once more people had balanced names. The irony is overwhelming.
I see your point but it should be noted that Alfred J Parker as a business signature does contain the qualities they promote as balanced. True; if he had changed his first name and last name in the way they suggest it would reflect better on the organization.
Calling him a scam artist removes attention from what really matter, the work he has done. He has found a system of numerology that gives an understanding of personality through name that I have not found anywhere else. The business signature descriptions are also very specific and accurate. The cycle charts they sell are impressive in their accuracy as well.
What the scandal shows me is there is no system or philosophy that will magically make your demons go away. If people have issues with sex these are things that come from the brain itself. This is not a personality trait like procrastination. No matter the organization there is always a person with in it that is the exact opposite of the organization’s intentions. Priests that molest children, cops that sell drugs, teachers that prey sexually on students. Calling the whole organization a scam because of the bad apples is unfair.
I find the Kabalarians information impressive but their vibe is a little funny. They hold back the numbers on names and only provide descriptions. This places the person seeking help from them into a position where they must rely on the Kabalarians to guide them out of their situation. But if numbers where provided then a person could get on their computer and do the math to balance out their names themselves. A little thing but it is that kind of thing that makes people untrusting.
As for a chaldean name that is also a well balanced pythagorean name is not hard at all. I find most balanced names come up with a favorable chaldean meaning. Occasionally I find a balanced name come up with a bad chaldean meaning. So if people wish to disregard either system they do it at their own risk. Just because you don’t believe something doesn’t make it not real. I always find it strange when one set of people who practice a mystic art are skeptical of another mystic art. Once again falling into the trap of religious thinking.
It’s not finding what’s real. It’s finding that it’s all real.
X,
I’m not sure whether you mean he “found” or “founded” a system of numerology that you haven’t seen elsewhere.
Alfred distorted an older system called Yantra and twisted it to suit his agenda. Loading names with 6s, which is what he did and the Kabs still do, has the effect of making people uncertain and more easily controlled (according to the original Yantra). That was never done in the original – people were given more individualized names/numbers.
So while I agree that Yantra/Kabalarianism has accurate name descriptions this comes from an older system, one that Alfred corrupted and also charged money for, something that was traditionally warned against as creating bad karma!
You might say it’s good the Kabs are publicizing it if you fork over enough dollars but as you comment the main problem is they are hiding the information for the sake of making money. They obviously don’t allow people to use their system for free or create their own names even though the Kab system is not that complicated. I do think their name descriptions are solid, but that’s about it.
I disagree about the cycle charts. It’s easy to read into that what you would like to see, but I think they are misleading and inaccurate. The traditional standard Pythagorean system is more accurate if one must choose, but even that is too vague to be of much use for most people.
I’m not sure what you mean by balanced names are easy to find in Chaldean as well. That’s just not true. Chaldean balancing is as intricate as the original Yantric balancing, specifically based on one’s birthpath. If you mean just giving a total that is said to be alright in Chaldean that is a very superficial understanding.
Some birthpaths require very specific numbers to offset the karma of the Chaldean birthpath. Also, the meaning of the birthpath in the Chaldean systems can be quite different from the Kab.
As you state, the Kab vibe is weird. They are using it for personal gain and their leader and organization have paid the price. This can’t be undone by them unless they change their approach significantly.
As for the leader and his name change the fact he only made minor modifications for a business signature only is bizarre! Why would the leader, who’s writing often emphasizes how one must be disciplined and follow his system exactly, not make for himself a perfectly balanced name?
That just makes no sense.
I’m actually not as hard on them as I could be because I know the intentions of some of the Kabs are not so bad. Sometimes I receive absurd emails by some of their followers that just reek of cult-speak. I’m tempted to publish their petty attacks to show their “enlightened” state (not!) but refrain out of respect for the well-meaning (but deluded) people in the organization.
Here is the problem with the organization and why I think it is fair to call it a scam: they charge for what traditionally was given away for free; they have no documented results showing positive changes for people, although by now they could have statistical studies; the name change is supposed to confer “enlightenment” and despite that their leader is shown to be guilty of sexual abuse with parents and daughters with balanced names complicit in the abuse, so in this sense their claims are clearly a lie; their leader did not change his name in accord with his system and was also involved in assorted sex scandals; the leader/founder also died young while writing extensively on health and diet.
If you make those kinds of claims and fail so badly what would you call it?? Just because they have good name descriptions doesn’t make up for the rest of it.
The problem throughout is the hypocrisy of the people in this organization, the failure to follow their own system, and the consequences that accrue as a result. The results speak for themselves.
I’d be only too happy if they cleaned up their act.
Louu,
Good and funny story you shared. It’s something to find out the tactics they use, and yes, their address is an 8!
I’ve enjoyed reading everyone’s comments.
The ‘secrecy’ the Kabs create can work very well to attract sales, but they don’t have it fully mastered, otherwise they would be doing much better financially than they are, so it’s just as well.
I do agree that most of the Kabs are well meaning, it’s the commercialization overall that is corrupt, and there is no evidence that the name changes they advise are helpful for everyone.
That said, their name descriptions are very good at describing personalites – in their Life Analysis Training (LAT) course, that is, *not* in their name reports or on their current website. I don’t regret buying the course, even though it was overpriced at the time. Now it’s insanely overpriced and I see that they are charging membership fees to access most of the stuff on their website too. And as others have mentioned, I dislike their secrecy and weirdness overall. And how their ‘system’ is a corruption of Yantra as Success says.
If you get the free calculator below and analzye Kab names you’ll discover their ‘secret’ name patterns pretty quickly:
http://www.2near.com/edge/numerology/#download
Because I have their LAT course and I’ve analyzed so many names I can confirm what they do and therefore can post about it.
The truth: they only give out 2 different patterns for female names and 3 different patterns for male names.
They also tell women to add a middle initial of B or K or T to sign business related documents. Kab female names all total 6, and will have an 8 total when using the initial for a business signature.
The use of an initial in business signatures isn’t as applicable in modern times because a middle initial in a signature on a legal document must be part of your legal name. You can, however, use a pretend middle initial on a business card I guess.
Men are allowed to have an 8 total for their most used name because 8 is said to be fine for men, not women. Some men are given a 6 total and are therefore advised to use the B K or T middle initial for business like women are.
They make all of this very secret, unless you pay for their course. You don’t get the information by requesting a Balanced Name report, you only get a list of names, not the numbers and patterns involved.
Also, ALL Kab names have surnames with the same total. A J Parker is the exception, of course. Quite something that he never formally/legally balanced his name. Typical of leaders to not do what they tell their followers to do I agree!
But the main point I’m trying to make is that the name patterns that the Kabs give out are not the highly individualized, carefully calculated formulas that they claim they are – names that supposedly bring out a person’s true nature/path. Yantra names, in contrast, were/are designed to be very individual. I’m not saying that Yantra names ‘work’ either, I’m just pointing out how much Alfred J Parker messed around with the original system and made stuff up for his own interests.
A Kab moderator wouldn’t let me ask much about name patterns on the Kab private forum. My posts, which were respectful, were removed and I was told that they didn’t want me to talk about such things because it was up to their ‘experts’ to discuss patterns in that kind of depth.
But maybe I’m being unfair. Maybe it takes a high level of concentration and training to flip a coin to determine which of the 2 Kab name patterns is right for a woman or to draw a straw to determine which of the 3 Kab name patterns is right for a man.
Success,
I have not found information on Yantra on the internet. The Kabalarians and some sites that do basic “1 means you’re independent” type stuff. So the Kabalarians are the only ones out there pointing out that numerology can really get deep and specific.
Their ideas on names changes are difficult to implement. Changing your name is not easy and you’ll never be free of the thought that your birth name was “XYZ”. I personally think you should make a good strong business signature. You make be flighty in every day life but when it comes time to work…
I disagree with you on the cycle charts. I’ve been using them as have my friends. We’ve all found them to be quite accurate. “You read into it what you want” is a skeptic response to our whole world of thought.
Remember what matters is the science of the system. What a man does with it cannot remove the facts. The power of name and birth on the person.
LW,
Thanks for your comment and your detailed insider info! That would be helpful if someone wants to crack their code, as it were.
Great link to the numerology calculator, too.
X,
Welcome back. Did you want a link to Yantra? Not sure how interested you are… the main teacher who teaches it the old way is really getting on in years but he’s still sharp mentally. He used to know Parker and debate with him.
Just so you know I am not recommending Yantra, but if you are a researcher you may find it interesting or superior. It is more specific for the name changes.
It’s true we will just have to disagree about the cycle charts. My specific claim is not just “you read into it what you want” but rather that the standard Pythagorean cycles are more accurate. I’m not totally dismissing cycles, I’m saying the Kabs (and in this case, Yantra) get it wrong.
As for names in depth Yantra goes into depth, too, and some numerology writing does but more rarely. Kabs have good write ups for the names but over time it becomes clearer where they are right and wrong. There are many subtleties to the numbers and their relationships to birthpath that the Kabs are not aware of as well as the Chaldean birthpath and name number variations.
Changing your name is certainly not easy for most people. Most systems agree you will feel the impact of your birth name and path throughout your life, with some variation based on pinnacles. As you may know Kabs think the birth name fades based on calculations of the numbers of the first name, however I disagree with that.
Yes, the science of the system is what matters. But the Kab science is based on the science of Yantra, and the Kab is altered and simplified. The Yantra cycle charts and name descriptions are the same or similar to what the Kabs teach, by the way, even if the recommended names are different.
I actually think the “science” of it has a fairly long way to go, but at least Yantra is a start.
I’d be very interested in what ever links you can supply.
X,
Here is a link to the Yogi who still teaches Yantra.
Yantra introduction page: http://www.real-yoga.com/yantra.yoga
To contact him: http://www.real-yoga.com/email.yoga
Keep in mind I am not recommending Yantra…
Thanks for this blog… What perspective!
My own journey has involved a few name changes, the latest being influenced by the Kabalarians. It may not be the “absolute”… but it was the best that I had come across so far… I had no idea that it was based in Yantra… That makes way more sense… and that it was originally free. Also I had never heard of the Chaldean paradigm (how intriguing).
I had not heard of the scandals before either. etc. wow.
I also noted that the girl names kept adding to a 6
and wondered about that…
There can be mystical elements (like serendipity + synchronicity) that go with the inquiry. And I could definitely say that each name that I have had-used has been like it’s own “Chapter” AND I would have to concur that I have developed way more stability in my life under my current Kabalarian-study name. And it has helped me come to better terms with some of the strengths and weaknesses and health proclivities of other people in my life. But I’ve been sensing some possible limitations, as I believe in the idea of Human Potential, and wonder about current areas of dischord or challenge that I did not exhibit under previous names. Though it may also be due to some of the “transition” process? Such a treasure hunt!
Plus, the previous study that I “tested” also credited the influence of the middle name… and I cannot NOT perceive that dynamic at work. For instance, my birth name had “Marie” as its middle name, and I had started to notice that the majority of people who PUBLICLY listed their middle name, had that same middle name.
Also, I had done a ton of day jobs in my twenties… and I began to notice that certain types of roles tended to have the same genre of names. Hmmmm….
Lots of Stories!
Thanks, Isabell.
I’ve also noticed some interesting synchronicities with name changes. There is also a process of development with each change, I agree. The problem is that changing names without knowing what you’re doing can be very disruptive!
Thanks for sharing your experiences.
A few more thoughts:
What do you think of life cycles? The first study I did emphasized 7 year cycles, which I think I can definitely perceive. The Kabalarians emphasize 9 year cycles. I have not yet seen this in my life, but perhaps they both/all have their inter-orbiting paths?
Also… even though the Kabalarians do not really associate with the Kabbalah of Mystic Judaism… I visited a Synogogue for Rosh Hoshana around the time I had received the name of “Lhotus.” I discovered that the Jewish traditions also included the Lotus Symbol, and would change their memberships names when someone got deathly ill. There were only a couple of main standard names for Men or Women that they would change it to, but it was so intriguing… a whole “modern” culture/community… and I had been deathly ill under my birthname… so it was so amazingly affirming! And I happened to be living by a city that had a Lotus Festival every year, with the largest lotus pond in Western USA at the time. Wow. Talk about Jurassic flowers! I was thinking water lilies. It seems that my birthname helped me learn about more secular and western religious paradigms… while the Lhotus name helped me learn about more eastern spiritual perspectives… Now, under Isabell (which turned out to be a name that my mother had wanted for a kid)… there is better survival in society aspects. Whew!
Hi Isabell,
In regards to the Kabalarians 9 year cycles, they again use the exact same system of Yantra. What is odd about this system as you may know from looking at the Kabs is that they add +1 for the purpose of calculating your personal year.
This is in contrast to standard Pythagorean numerology year cycles which do not add +1.
As you can read in the comments above, “X” has said he and his friends have responded better to the Kab/Yantra yearly cycles. I, however, and the people I know have not.
I have found the standard Pythagorean timing cycles to be more accurate.
Hans Decoz has a good diagram of the timing cycles on his site. You can find out how to calculate your personal year and cycles here: http://www.decoz.com/numerology_tutor_personalyearcycles.htm
Hans rightly, in my view, shows how the issue of being on the cusp can alter people’s perceptions of where you are in your personal year, and how the energies of the personal year builds over the course of a year.
I don’t like to get to entangled in contemplating yearly cycles so I regard them lightly, with awareness of the energy but no great concern. It’s more something to be aware of then trying to control all the unfolding events or plan everything out in accord with them.
As for the Jewish Kabbalah tradition of name changing in times of crisis, yes, I have read of that and found that interesting as well. They know at some level that the vibration of name can affect health; a last minute change might save someone.
That’s good you survive better with your new name, Isabell. I would expect that in contrast to “Lhotus”. As you probably know Lhotus is a 9-5-5, which can be chaotic and often changing in contrast to the more stable 6-9-6 you have now for your first name.
Numerology can be useful for the spiritually sensitive, as they will be the most affected by the vibrations of name.
Bump.
Hi Kamalla,
Nice name. You did the Kab name change? How was that?
Hi,
Thanks! Yes, I actually did. My first-name before was also unusual & I did like it, but it equaled a 4-4-8 in Pythagorean & a 12-3 in Chaldean. I did have Master numbers in my whole birth name so I hope I’m not negating anything beneficial. I didn’t get into any of the rest of their stuff though, just the name report & suggestions which I then determined the pattern & chose my own name -it wasn’t one of theirs. That was a couple years ago. I had no idea about all this negative stuff until I just read about it now, so that’s horrible. At the time I couldn’t find anything bad about them in any searches.
It probably seems weird, but I was already looking to do a last-name change before for my husband & me both for our marriage as like a total coming together & having a new start kind of thing. Then we just decided to change the whole thing.
I knew I wanted our names to have good numerology, but I wasn’t sure exactly how to determine that & didn’t want to just guess. The Kabalarian site seemed to be the only one I could find that offered any advice on the subject, though it did annoy me that they didn’t explain how or why they determined what might be a good name for me & I just had to hope & trust they actually knew what they were doing. I did wonder why too it seemed most people there had the same number vibration in their names, as they said it was supposed to be tailored to one’s specific birth path -mine’s a 7, & one of three day categories -mine’s a 9/inspirational, so you’d think it would be more varied. They also didn’t give out a very long list to choose from at all & it would be better it they listed their names out on their site according to the number patterns like wise-name.com does to make it easier. (Which the wise-name.com site, BTW, seems to be inaccessible, if anyone knows why?) I didn’t like the names they offered so had to find ones that fit on my own.
I also looked a bit, with what info I could find, into the Yantra Yoga which seemed to suggest that one’s name be changed depending on what age/stage you’re in so that could mean changing the name three different times in your life, which I wouldn’t want to do. It also had the total or ending number to be the same as the birth path number, which makes sense, but when I looked up the description for that combination in a book called “Miracle of Names” (written by Clayne Conings, which has the same number pattern, but doesn’t seem to be affiliated with them that I can tell) it didn’t really seem like a good thing to take on.
I tried to utilize as many different numerology systems, & other things, as I could to come up with something I liked, while just making sure the same pattern they suggested was there. It took a couple years before making the final decision.
It’s been interesting. Took awhile for our families to come around to the idea, but now our new names, for us & most everyone, just seem second nature. I do feel different somehow, but now after reading these posts I am wondering if I shouldn’t have utilized their advice without knowing more. I hope I didn’t do anything detrimental. I came to this site now because I’m going to be having a baby boy this December & am looking for names. Is there anyone here well versed in numerology or determining a personally balanced auspicious name that could give their opinion on the names I chose &/or suggest a better avenue for choosing my child’s name?
Thanks.
Hi Kamalla,
The http://www.wise-name.com site is working fine right now. http://www.wise-name.com/find.names. Can you access it?
You did a lot of impressive research, Kamalla! That’s a lot of looking into numerology. There are a lot of secrets being kept in numerology by the big system providers like the Kabalarians, some of which I’ve tried to explain here.
It’s hard to say whether you did the right or wrong thing with the name changes but usually people will manage alright at least. The main bad totals like the 5 or 9 for the destiny number are usually more of a problem, so if you avoid those I would think that’s good enough (there are exceptions, but that’s generally good enough).
All the questions in numerology and one’s decisions have to do with what one’s goals are and how perfectly one wishes to match with a certain system or intention. For example, Yantra is a form of Yoga, so it is a spiritual system specifically, designed to encourage enlightenment. Therefore it may not be suitable for everyone.
As for your master numbers, they can often be very hard to work with; they are not just a blessing – instead they are more of a challenge, one that does not necessarily offer positives in material life. They are often involved more with certain spiritual impulses and energies and may not really manifest in the “real” world, instead mostly influencing one’s mind and dreams and not so much reality.
I can help review your options for naming your child. I’ll send you an email.
Thanks for the interesting comment.
Hello, great day everyone!…
Blessed day everyone, my first name is Andrei (in Romanian, which phonetically would be “andrei”, comes from “Andrew” – Andros, in Greek, which means “man, manly, courageous”). Since i was around 5 years old (just before school) i started noticing that the sounds we hear every day and the harmony of them quite tries to influence our life. I just started wondering what defines every people, more exactly. And i came to the conclusion that there are 2 things: the destiny (the goal, the direction, to where are they set to) that God decided for them (like some people say “resources”, although i don’t quite agree so much with that term about it) and, of course, the external influences that come and tries to carve us in certain ways. So i decided to try to find out what would try to influence me and do my best decisions about it. Then i noticed mostly 2 things, from everything else, that tries to influence us greatly: our self image (both the physical and the psychological one), which is what we believe about ourselves – this can be either decided by us or/and influenced also by others, even by the mirror from the bathroom that we look everyday in it and/or so on… the other thing that tries to “carve” us is the harmony of sounds and words that are all around us… i also noticed that the most repetitive formation of sounds that we hear (and – even more influencing because it defines ourselves) is our very name (or even some nickname or abbreviation or something like that…). So i started, from that early age (strange, i know
) ) to analyse this too, to see where i should be careful to not become like that (like a lier or pretended or some bad “properties”) and to see what i can use more and improve more to accomplish the best in fulfilling the goal (destiny) that God had for me. I remember noticing that the letter “d” can provoke interiorization, and being with many faces sometimes (pretending), even also intelligence, while “r” provokes sincerity and a sanguine temperament , but, of course, there matters also the combination that you make between those, one can negate some or all of some other letter’s impulses, also matters where in the name is the letter and so on… Then i also became very interested in poetry and i started creating poems and i did paid a lot of attention also to the arrangement of the letters in the words and in the phrases, as their harmony should transmit also the poem’s message, or at least what i did understood and what i actually tried to tell through the poem. So, when the reader reads (and especially if he reads loudly and with a good rhetoric, that would be better) it, he/she can understand better the poem’s message and even be changed (in good, i hope 
… ) by it. As about the kabalarian’s system, i can say that their description did match quite accurate, although i don’t see it as a religion and even i didn’t know about the newspaper scandals (i don’t affirm about something that is true, although it might be, until i am around 100% that is true, especially accusations, even, of course, they might be true), but i do believe that math do can apply a lot to psychology and stuff (I am a born-again strong believing Christian and although i am always seeking to be open and a very deep and completely a truth seeker, i don’t change in my beliefs what i’ve found for most sure to be true 
. But the God i know do advise us to be wise and open-eyed, not naive and not buying everything we see/hear!… Even so, we need to find good base in our beliefs, and then, on true basis (like the base i found in Christ, Scriptures, etc.), keep delving in true and good knowledge and God’s love and fulfill whatever God’s goal (which is always best for us and for everyone else) is for our lives.
I am looking forward as to study all of this (although i noticed that the Hebrew language does impulse whatever is the real meaning of the words) and delve more into the meaning of the harmony of the sounds and words all around us. If you have any advice in this direction and sense, i would be more than pleased and grateful for them.
i wish you a best and most surprising blessed life from the Lord God of all Universe YHWH-Jireh, El Shadai, YHWH-Raah!…
with warmes wishes and respect,
Andrei Caba
Hi Andrei, and welcome.
Yes, there is much to learn about numerology and its impact. I would recommend you study the 3 main systems – Pythagorean, Yantric, Chaldean – if you wish to learn more.
Yantra is good to study because it gives a deeper understanding of where the Kabalarians are coming from.
Each can be accessed online to varying degrees. My personal favorites are the Yantric and Chaldean, although the Pythagorean can be useful for a general outline.
Thanks for the good wishes and I wish you the same.
Let us know how your insight develops,
Arthor
Hello,
I, too, chose Isabell. My story is too long to write. I resonated with Arden more as it is a name I would have given a daughter if I wanted more children and it was on my list as well. My experience with the Kabalarians has been wonderful. My birth name was Kimberly. I tested Kimberaly (didn’t like the spelling of Kimberlay) and saw huge changes in my life. It was two years before I made a final decision and a legal change. My last name is my grandmother’s maiden name. I decided to make a complete break from my birth name and also for simplicity chose a new name. The most undeniable benefit was and is to my thinking processes. A much calmer mind and far better at how I deal with people and shockingly how they treat me. I feel the money charged is low because they gave me all kinds of time on the phone for questions and discussion. And this was prior to actually making a formal change. They do need to pay bills like everyone else and I fail to see how they are making huge bucks from the services or courses they do charge for. Because once you’re done you’re done. Before the forums were closed to posts, the moderator there did say they’d had some who worked for or were heavily involved with the society went rogue. Rogue is not a direct quote, just my best summary of what happened. The information is guarded to protect those that would set up business or have and harmed lives. What I find very interesting is the 6 9 6 birthpath at your link here has all my recommended names that I used or considered. I have not taken the Life Analysis training and am not sure that is what was mentioned to me but it does sound familiar. I had never heard of the sex scandels and did know Alfred J Parker did not balance his own name. I have found the cycles to be stunningly accurate. Although this year, mine most of the time are 24 hours off. My youngest daughter (with whom I could not have managed an ongoing relationship without the benefit of a balanced name, due to her pushing my buttons constantly) did a complete 180 turn in her beliefs when she saw the cycles alone play out in her own life. She started calling to ask about certain days because of things that happened. They offered free name reports last year and she ordered hers and told me it was “dead on”. My super scientific boyfriend became convinced as well just as a bystander and what happened in his own life. There is no cold reading involved. I got a name report based solely on birth name, date, etc. provided. It was 99% accurate and I tossed and turned for weeks wondering how that could be and realized only math is that accurate. I was a devoted Christian who thought it was somehow against my faith. I look back and due to the changes (just living my life using the balanced name) could finally see the real truth about many things, including the fact that there is nothing wrong at all in mathematically balancing a name. I could go on and on with results. They do NOT promise a bed of roses or trouble free life but more accumulative conditions in life which is true. I do still have challenge areas no question but can say that prior to finding them, I could trace the bulk of my problems to the time of my marriage (divorced many years ago but still had the last name) but never realized it was name change after the marriage which brought the biggest problems. Also it should be noted that some have a lot more trouble than others in adjusting to a new name. I’m one that had more trouble. I certainly automatically respond to my name but at times struggle to FEEL like my name. I feel more like Arden but don’t want to risk losing any inspirational qualities. I discovered quite by accident that Arden carried more practical qualities and I felt my practical side overwhelmed my inspirational side most of the time. I work part time as a paid actress and also love to sing and dance. My work is improv a great deal of the time and I couldn’t do half what I can do now prior to this name. The improv all came about unintentionally. I returned to comedic work and the group I ended up with just happened to have a ton of improv needed. I would never return to the unbalanced spelling of my birth name. I don’t ever want to deal with what it does to my mind again. If the spelling had been easier and people not cutting my name off to Kim, I might just have legalized Kimberaly. As Isabell I shook off some traits I carried even with the balanced spelling of Kimberaly. But I do confess life would be easier with a simple letter change in some ways as the name is still pronounced the same. I would love some input regarding my 9-5-1959 birthpath if anyone wants to offer it and is a 6 9 6 advisable? Thanks!
Hi Isabell, thanks for sharing your story. I’m glad the Kab name worked out for you.
Arden is the same total as Isabell numerologically. The Chaldean is the only thing different in the total.
It’s true the Kabs are not making huge money from the name change alone, however they do charge $500 for the Life Analysis Training and have similar fees for other courses. The point is not entirely the money (traditionally Yantra had strong warnings against charging for the name change).
It is definitely not the case that “once you’re done, you’re done” with them. The Kabs are quite content to charge people more and more for all the side courses after you’ve done the name change, and all of those courses cost more than the name change!
I don’t think the organization is doing very well financially these days but don’t know the details.
I would expect with your name that you would be more creatively expressive. That’s what the 3s do in the total.
A 6-9-6 is usually advisable in most systems as a good total. It is a fairly well balanced combination. The question is where does the uniqueness of the person get into the name. For example, ideally you would get the 2 of your birthpath into your name and express with the minor lesson you are in, such as a 9, 5 or 6, so a 2-3-5 or 2-4-6 first name and a 6-9-6 total would be a better balance and more individual to you according to Yantra (and common sense – if the Kabs make it so uniquely tailored to the individual why are the names not… unique??)
Hi Success,
I very much appreciate the information regarding the numerology of my name!
It’s good to know. And a relief regarding Isabell vs. other choices. I have certainly seen the creative expression with it!
I know nothing about numerology other than as pertains to the cycles in this philosophy. Meaning I’ve learned the basics and understanding through experience and have not studied the cycles course. So I have virtually no knowledge when it comes to the triple numbers (6 9 6 for example) and others involved. It’s just they’ve been mentioned to me, like my 2 birthpath.
I did mean when you are done, you’re done as in taking courses. Unless they keep adding courses but no one would be obliged to take them. As far as I can see in the 5 1/2 years I’ve worked with it, I’ve not noticed new courses being offered. I’ve seen the course list and prices. The prices are not offensive or upsetting to me since taking any course anywhere costs money. But that is certainly a personal choice as to whether someone feels the cost is too much or not. My experience with name recommendation was extremely generous. I was very poor and the senior consultant there offered it half price and I could pay when I had it. No time frame in which to pay in full or make payments, etc. Totally based on trust. I did get it paid sooner than I expected. They have always been there for me when I have questions so the time on the phone even calculated at minimum wage far exceeded what I actually paid between name report and name recommendations. When they are busy I make an appointment. And they have always been willing to talk with anyone connected to my life who is interested in learning about their name without charge.
I don’t know why more uniqueness isn’t expressed in the name recommendation. Personally, I would like to have that. And it makes sense that the birthpath number of 2 should be expressed somewhere in there. I do recall something about the simplicity of learning the math in the forums (I think it was the forums). My perception was that it would be hard to learn so I thought this was good news. I still have not taken any courses.
I would be very interested in learning more about the balance/numbers you suggested in your response. Is there anyone trustworthy that you would feel confident in referring me to? I understand if someone works with it but maybe isn’t an expert and that may cause a hesitation in a referral. If that is the case, just let me know that so I know what I’m getting into. I sometimes sense there is more that could be done with my name but am extremely cautious about name because of all the loss in my life due to taking my ex-husband’s name when I married. Also my maiden name did cause the terrible health issues listed with it so I got “hit” pretty hard all around due to the math of my names.
Thank you!
In terms of charging for the name change unfortunately for the Kabs the simple fact is that the system their system derives from – Yantra Yoga Numerology – warns against charging for personal name changes. It is clearly stated that doing so leads to bad karma. It doesn’t matter whether they space out the charges or people think it’s reasonable or not.
They have plenty of other ways to make money. They could charge for business names, consulting, etc.
The people who have started charging money for name change via Yantra have all been embroiled in scandals of various sorts. Bad karma?
If you’re part of a system that says don’t charge for it I don’t think it’s wise to charge for it. Of course it is their choice to do so and they will have at accept the consequences.
The uniqueness is not expressed in their recommendations because the 6 in the mind “waters down” the pure birthpath unity with name. It makes people easier to control, more uncertain, and more prone to worry and mental activity. There are good sides, such as more responsibility and balance, but the individual can only express their individuality when their personal numbers are balanced, not re-arranged by the Kabs. Given how well Alfred J Parker knew the numbers I think it’s pretty obvious he knew what he was doing; his intentions were certainly in part to get what he wanted for himself.
Remember, the leader did not change his name and assorted scandals have followed them around.
As for the recommendation, if you want the pure Yantric name for yourself the only person I could refer you to is far more adamant that you only balance to your minor lesson. He would say that you should have a 2-3-5 first name and any of the balanced totals: 2-4-6, 6-9-6, 2-6-8, 9-6-6, 6-2-8, etc.
If you want to correspond with him he can be reached here:
http://www.real-yoga.com/
The main thing is that you get the 2 in your birthpath into your mind and harmonize with your minor lessons.
In regards to the meaning the 2 is idealistic, diplomatic, to be a peacemaker and negotiator, intuitive, and a visionary. At this time in your life you will ideally express that 2 in a 5 manner, by travel, communication, change, and for freedom and transformation.
But you are 51, right? So because you are so close to your last life lesson, which you keep for the rest of your life, a 2-4-6 is more likely the best choice for you. This matches your final lesson. This is the same as 2 above but you would express as you do now: in a balanced and harmonious way, creatively yet with an eye to being accurate.
Thank you Success! I definitely want to hear what he has to say. After my last post and running out the door for the day and evening, I realized your primary issue with them is that they charge at all and do understand that being wrong when the system is based in Yantric which I’d never heard of prior to these boards. I will be back to let more of what you’ve written sink in since I’m tired. But had to say thank you and let you know duh, I did finally realize it was about pay.
Could I send you a private question regarding a health problem that may or may not be related to name change? I will be asking the yogi as well. And yes, I will be 51 and things have felt so stressful as I head towards the next life cycle. I feel the cycles begin to overlap in Kabalarian too. I’m very intuitive and empathic with other gifts. I’m beginning to suspect I AM an Intuitive Empath.
It is a pleasure talking to you on the boards here. Thank you again!
Hi IsabellB,
Yes, my main issues with the Kabs are:
1. They charge for the name change. I don’t care if they charge for other things but the name change should be free. But like I say, it’s their karma they have to face and of course they are doing so.
2. They advertise that the name change is uniquely tailored to the individually tailored but really it’s not. Yantra is individual.
Of course you can send me a question. I’ll send you an email.
Hi everybody,
I just used Kabs to change my name. It’s a pity I did not find this site before, even I tried to do scam search for them. But, I’ll just make few comments.
1. Who deciding that is something in this world should be free?! Kabs make money, good for them! Don’t pay if you don’t like it, it’s free world.
2. Sex scandal does not make the theory wrong. Don’t mix things!
3. The most interesting about numerology question: different alphabets from many languages make this theory fall apart, especially in our more and more international cosmopolitan world. I change three countries of living during my life, with different languages, witch one should I follow?
The birth date. Who decided that it should be based on Gregorian calendar? Why?
It seems to me, the whole system is floating in the air, without any fundamental base.
Hi Curt,
Thanks for writing. I’ve re-posted your questions as a new post here. It’s too bad you didn’t find this site. My “Beware the Kabalarians” post is my most viewed page; people are clearly interested. I’ll post some more on the subject so the search engines are more likely to find it.
You raise some questions. Some I have answered before and some are new. They are worth going over. Here are my replies:
1. Who decides something should be free? The people and tradition that gave birth to the Kabs, namely Yantra. As I explain above, there are traditionally karmic penalties if you charge for the name change. As I explain in the comments there are are other ways of making money, such as doing business name consultation. After the scandals the Kabs took a huge hit, losing almost half their paying members. They have been warned about doing what they are doing; they have paid and will continue to pay the price. I’m here to remind them of the spiritual path, of the rules that governed what gave birth to their modified system. Comparing a modern, mercantilist perspective “if you don’t like it, it’s a free world” to a genuine spiritual system is not even comparing apples and oranges; it’s more like comparing dung to gold.
2. As for the sex scandal, I’m not sure what you mean by “the theory”, but it actually does make the Kab claims wrong. The reason is simple; like with #1 above, it is the contradiction and hypocrisy of a supposedly balanced name. Why would a balanced name not lead to leaders not preying on underage girls (and the charges were brought forth back when Canada’s age of consent was 14 ); why would the parents not say anything; why did the “balanced” names not lead to more independent thought and action?
It doesn’t make the theory that letters can be reduced to numbers that have an effect on consciousness wrong. But that theory is literally thousands of years old. Think Pythagoras and the Chaldeans. It does make the Kabs claim that their numbers are balanced in any meaningful definition of balanced…. wrong.
3. As for alphabets, the answer is both simple and complex: You use the language of the country you are in and the main one you use. The reason is that mind is at the intersection of culture (language is an aspect of culture) and reality.
It doesn’t make the theory fall apart at all. Yantra is very clear that your mind is shaped by the most used name and the most used language for the person. The system of reducing the alphabet is the same; the numbers for each letter depend on how the letters are sequenced in the culture.
As for the Gregorian calendar, the answer is the same. It’s because we use it the most that it has the strongest effect. Remember, this is about impact on mind.
The system is not floating in the air. The base is the culture, language, calendar, and name that we use the most. Of course to see the base you have to become aware of the numbers and letters that affect our consciousness. It’s actually pretty simple, but because we are unaccustomed to seeing the water we swim in (speaking metaphorically), it can take a shift in perspective to get it.
Curt,
You are correct that the Kab’s have the freedom to charge for what they teach. Harvard doesn’t give out knowledge for free. Knowledge feels best when freely given. Doesn’t make it right or wrong, but it feels better.
The sex scandal does not wipe out the teaching but it does point to the part of personality that is brain generated. Is it planet position? Chinese year system? Human’s are complex. Many factors make them who they are.
As for the truth of numerology. The Chaldean system and Pythagorean system can not be shot down by a simple question. These are ancient systems studied by people who dedicated whole life times to it. They have been picked up by more educated people who have dug deep into the truths of the universe, found it to be true and carried it forward. It is real. Different calendars will reveal different truths. The Mayans have their own system and look at the world around us (2010 now) It’s falling apart. God speaks through all things. His mysteries are more complex than we can imagine. This crazy system of numbers and alphabets reveal destiny. These imaginary days of the calendar reveal information about your path in life, the conditions of your day, and the destiny ahead of you. It’s doesn’t have to make sense to be true.
Hey Julz, welcome back.
Of course the Kabs can charge for whatever they like. They just have to accept the consequences of their decision.
Hi Success,
I balanced my name using the Kabalarians back in 2004, your forum was probably not operational back then. I have experienced many difficulties in my life since balancing my name. Apparently, the reason why Alfred J Parker didn’t change his name, as per the consultant was; ‘that he had to pioneer the system to fruition and set it up’ the markings of a 6-4-1 first name.
Recently, I have been re-evaluating whether I had made the right choice in my name change, having a 6-2-8 first 6-3-9 surname and 3-5-8 overall. I don’t believe I am living out my potential with this name. I have had ups and downs with career and not being able to find my way, being unemployed for 2 years and being a perpetual student.
I am aware that Yantric yoga is somewhat in association with the methods of the Kabalarians, my birth path is; 7-27-1980, if you have any suggestions, would be greatly appreciated. The main benefit with my current name is logical though and health, but financially and success wise it doesn’t work. I was aware but never delved into the Chaldean system as I heard it didn’t work, but now I feel that re-evaluation is required to remove or mitigate the issues in my life. In chaldean; my current full name is a 15, surname a 34 and a 49 total, I think that it isn’t a good total to have…what would be a better combination?
I was wondering whether Vedic astrology and the position of the planets impact on the kind of name one should have? e.g. if born on the 27th (moon, ketu, mars) and their positions and the required name.
Best Regards.
Hi Ok,
You’re right, I only started this page about a year ago. As for your name and birth you are a 7 birthpath. When considered in light of matching with birthpath the Kab name is more unsuitable for 7s than some other birthpaths (6s would usually be fine, for example, although usually still not ideal).
The main idea behind Yantra is to get your birthpath into your name. This means you put the 7 into what the Yantrics call the “Mind” position, which is the number made up of the vowels of the first name.
I tend to be more flexible with people than the Yantrics, however I do agree that getting the birth into a prominent place in one’s own name, either first name or total, is worthwhile. After all, we are trying to express aspects of our individuality and fulfill our potential rather than be drones programmed according to Kab code.
In terms of the Chaldean, yes, the Vedic-Chaldeans use a system that takes into account the astrology as well. Ideally you consult with one of the Chaldean practitioners to get the best Chaldean total.
For a recommendation I usually recommend Yantra combined with at least a good Chaldean number. In regards to your name what you’re writing is not totally clear. You write: “my current full name is a 15″ and then go on to list your surname and total. Do you mean your first name is a 15?
15 for a first name is usually good, but a 49 is not a good total in Chaldean.
5 and 6 totals are usually the best Chaldean numbers so I would tend to recommend those for you. A 41/5 or 42/6, for example.
The Chaldean impacts work, success, karma, and good fortune. The Kab/Yantric affects more the mind.
As a a side note I think the Kabs are seriously misguided in giving out 3-5-8 totals so often. The 3-5-8 is one of the weakest of the totals, perhaps good for a 3 lifepath and that’s about it. That total tends to dissipate money, have to constantly stay in motion, and promote a misguided sense of certainty (that often collapses in the real world in regards to financial matters).
Good luck. Let me know if there’s anything else I can do to help you out.
Success, Thank you for the response. That’s right, I did mean that the first name was 15 and total was 49, thanks for picking that up.
What first and surname combination would you recommend under Yantra?
You mention 5 or 6 totals in Chaldean, can they be any 5 or 6 totals or just 41 or 42? Also, is there particular individual name totals to select/avoid in Chaldean?
Could you please recommend a resource to get more information on selecting Chaldean names.
There is mention that 3-5-8 totals are bad, which totals are considered best and better than 3-5-8?
Which name combination do you use? Have you ever used a Kabalarian given name? If so, what are and were the outcomes in your life by using each one?
Thank you.
Hi Ok,
Those are good questions. Many are the ones I’m getting asked again and again so it’s probably time to start collating an FAQ.
The first name recommended by Yantra is a 7-2-9 for you. They put the mind of the first name (the mind = first name vowels) matching your birthpath and the expression number matching your minor lesson (the 27th is your middle minor lesson, which totals a 9).
As you can see this makes it a lot more personally attuned to you, in contrast to the Kab way.
I haven’t contacted the Yantra teachers for some time but I gather they are mostly recommending a 6-2-8 total these days. In Yantra balanced totals are:
2-4-6, 3-3-6, 6-9-6, 8-7-6, 9-6-6; 2-6-8, 6-2-8, 8-9-8, 9-8-8
So you can choose from any of those. A 6-2-8 total is probably the simplest choice, so to get this you would have a 7-2-9 first name and an 8-9-8 surname.
If you were completely unwilling to change your first name I would recommend a 7-1-8 total so you get your lifepath into your name in some way; but that is my own view of how to accommodate a person’s individual choices, not Yantra.
For the Chaldean other good totals are 23/5, 32/5, 41/5; and 24/6, 33/6, and 42/6.
There are many numbers to avoid; I don’t have a short list. It’s probably best to just focus on the good numbers in constructing your name.
I recommend this site for descriptions of the Chaldean numbers:
http://www.73-77chevelles.com/sites/Jackis/numerology.html
It’s based on Linda Goodman’s writings, which are better than average and good summaries.
Ideally consult with a professional Chaldean numerologist. While I can steer people in the right direction for the Chaldean so at least they have what is generally regarded as a good number I don’t delve into it in extreme depth personally.
Most Chaldeans are in India and their style can be a bit off-putting to the Western mind, but I recommend giving a small donation via Paypal and consulting with the fellow here:
http://astronlogia.com/
Don’t bother leaving a comment at his blog – he doesn’t respond predictably enough. Write him directly.
The 3-5-8 isn’t really bad; it’s just overused for people who are unlikely to fully benefit from it. It’s a number that would be well-suited for traveling musicians (except even then everyone needs to hang onto their money and 3-5-8 is scattering and usually leads to money in and money out), or 3 lifepaths might benefit from it.
The better totals are listed above.
Yes, I did have a Kab name and shifted to a Yantra name. I will describe more of my experience later on. The most important aspect for me was twofold: one, my mind became sharper and more disposed to positive moods with Yantra (the Kab name was driving me nutso); and two, my living situation changed to be far more harmonious, remarkably so in fact, and in less than a year.
It was not a cure all, but there was a very notable shift with Yantra for me. The Kab name made me much more uncertain in some ways and pushed me to serve others rather than develop my own unique potential (a common problem with the Kab name). That might be fine for a 6 or a 2, but most of us do better by exploring our own unique gifts.
My own combination of numbers is a bit complicated to explain in regards to why but essentially I learned Yantra well enough to construct something that balanced out various vibrations from my birth.
You can contact the people who still teach Yantra at
http://www.real-yoga.com
I don’t know if the old swami who used to debate at the Kab centre is still active, but someone is still there.
Let me know if you have any further questions.
Thank you for the response, I have received the same recommendation from;
http://www.real-yoga.com
I seem to be having the same issues as you did with your kab name.
Could you write which name combination you used with the Kabalarians and what you have now and your birthpath if that’s ok, I am happy for you to reply to my email rather than here, I haven’t been able to figure out how to private message you.
Also, if you could tell me about your experiences with both Kabs and Yantra.
Thanks again for your detail and insight.
Sure, I’ll write you directly.